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    I just finished a project using some of the maple stumps that were cut into boards for me. What is a good finish to use? It's a clock with a wolf at the bottom. All I have here is Danish Oil, Shellac and Gloss polyurethane

    Dan

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    I personally am not a fan of gloss finishes. I have used satin lacquer if it is fretwork. I do dip it in a 50/50 mix of zinser sanding sealer and alcohol. That seals the inner frets. Then a light sanding and then the lacquer.
    Rolf
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    • #3
      Rolf,

      Is the alcohol like rubbing alcohol? Do you suppose the sanding sealer is something I could find at the lumber yard or hardware store here?

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      • #4
        Guessing denatured alcohol. Rolf, when you dip in that mixture, does it change the color of maple?
        Betty

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        • #5
          I get my sanding sealer at Home Depot.

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          • #6
            Not rubbing alcohol. I get a quart can of denatured alcohol at Lowes along with the sanding sealer
            http://www.rockler.com/zinsser-bullseye-sealcoat
            https://www.woodcraft.com/products/s...xoCcgUQAvD_BwE

            Home depot and Lowes have the sealer.
            Rolf
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            • #7
              I think any penetrating finish changes or lightly darkens the wood. It brings out the highlights in the grain.
              Rolf
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              • #8
                So I found some Min-wax Sanding Sealer and denatured alcohol at True Value yesterday. Mixed it 50/50 like Rolf suggested and applied it to the maple board using a brush. My wife was happy with how it looked. I have not applied the lacquer yet. There was some of the mixture left so I stored it in a glass jar with a lid. When I went to use it this afternoon for another project the mixture had really thickened up. It was almost like thick paste. Can I not store this then? Or do I just guess at how much to mix and hope I have enough? I was a little leary about adding more alcohol to the paste like mixture because this is all new to me.

                Dan

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                • #9
                  The sanding sealer Rolf was referring to is Shellac. It's called Zinnser Seal Coat. It is thinned with denatured alcohol. The Min-Wax sanding sealer you have is something different. Do the instructions on the can suggest what to use as a thinner? If not, what do they recommend using as a solvent for clean-up? I suspect you are experiencing some sort of compatibility problem from mixing the alcohol with the Min-Wax product.
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                  • #10
                    Yes, it would appear that I'm more than a little confused. What I got was Min-wax sanding sealer not Zinnser seal coat.. I will have to look again at the link that Rolf has in an earlier part of this post. The Min-wax can does not call for any type of thinner to be used. It states that after dry I can apply any type of oil or water based polyurethane to the surface. The only mention of clean up is to use warm water in order to clean the brush when done

                    My wife likes how it looks like right now. Can I just leave it and not bother putting on any oil or water based polyurethane? Or would it hurt the clock if I put a few coats of lacquer on top of it?

                    Dan

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                    • #11
                      If it ain't broke . . .

                      Seriously, without knowing what went wrong, you might end up with a mess on your clock. Of course you can leave it as is. It's your project, after all!
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                      • #12
                        The Zinser I used is shellac based and alcohol is a thinner for it. I suspect you got the water based Minwax since you could clean the brush in water. Like the others have said if you like the way it looks leave it alone. Could you post a picture for us?
                        Rolf
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                        • #13
                          My issue is the end grain of maple turns grayish, which I don't like. Trying to avoid that. Bruce said think of end grain as thousands of tiny little straws soaking up the finish. Where does he get this stuff from? His brain really works overtime. LOL
                          Betty

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dan A View Post
                            My wife likes how it looks like right now. Can I just leave it and not bother putting on any oil or water based polyurethane? Or would it hurt the clock if I put a few coats of lacquer on top of it?

                            Dan
                            I wouldn't put lacquer on it. Lacquer needs a specific sanding sealer that is compatible.
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                            • #15
                              On the can of the Zinser that I have linked above it says it is OK with Lacquer. But I agree with Bill I would not risk lacquer on what you have now certainly not without a test piece.

                              Betty I am not sure I have seen the end grain go grey on maple.
                              Rolf
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