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    Hi all! I just bought plans for the Roman Cathedral scroll saw clock from Cherry Tree, and as I was looking the plans over, I noticed false plates drawn around nearly every piece. I've only dealt with false plates on one other clock pattern (a simpler one) I've done, and it was fairly straightforward and easy. When I compared the false plates to pictures of the clock, the pictures don't seem to show the false plates. And there seems no way for them to be tucked inside/behind other pieces either. The bottom line is..am I supposed to cut out the pieces with the false plates included? I guess I could always cut them off later after doing a dry fit and seeing how everything lines up.

    Any advice from anyone who has worked with false plates or has done this pattern would be greatly appreciated! Also, for anyone who has done this clock..advice for other problems you've run into would be appreciated as well!
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  • #2
    I have never heard that phrase before, what is a false plate?
    Rolf
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    Proud Member of the Long Island Woodworkers Club
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    • #3
      I have also recently purchased that pattern and I too was a little confused with the "false plate' teminology. I recently finished a couple clocks from The Art Factory and those patterns make suggestions for "support blocks". That's what I have determined these false plates are--merely suggestions of where to install a support piece if needed. Personnally, I will not be installing the majority of the ones suggested. I may put a support piece in if I feel a piece could use some additional wood to be glued to or something along those lines--hope that helps.
      Glenn

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      • #4
        https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-f...255B1%255D.JPG

        Rolph, I have attached an image from the pattern of the false plates. Hopefully I am not infringing on any copyright issues. I blocked out parts of the pattern to be sure.

        Glenn, did you end up cutting on the dotted-lines, thus removing the false plates?
        The 3-sentence explanation that came with the pattern stated something very similar to what you said (for adding support), but did not state whether to include them, or whether assembly techniques must me modified by including or omitting the false plates.

        I'm just not sure whether to cut on the solid lines or dotted lines! So frustrating.

        Thanks!
        Jeremy
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        • #5
          Jeremy-the dotted lines are for suggegsted placement of the false plates (support pieces) if desired-- DO NOT CUT ON THE DOTTED LINES-cut the solid lines as always. You may notice some pieces have dotted lines-others don't-but they all should have solid lines-cut on the solid lines. If you still are not comfortable with which lines to cut--I strongly suggest calling Cherry Tree Toys where you purchased the pattern and confirm with them--whenever I have talked to them they have always been very helpful.
          Glenn

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          • #6
            I built two of those clocks. I call the false plates ,either support blocks or spacers. Have fun and remember to post pictues,

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            • #7
              Thanks for the help! I've been cutting on the solid lines, and will continue to do so. Farming has gotten in the way of scroll sawing for now, but I hope to have this clock finished as quickly as I can! I will be sure to post pictures when I finish!
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              • #8
                Well, turns out time flies, and being full time at college doesn't allow much time for scroll sawing. However, I have finally finished the clock! The false plates were a necessity for support, and now find it funny how far in over my head I was with this pattern at the time.
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                • #9
                  Nice work! And welcome back!

                  Best Regards,
                  Bob Duncan
                  Technical Editor, Woodworking/DIY
                  www.GrobetUSA.com

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                  • #10
                    That is a beauty! I would love to attempt something like that, but have no idea what I would do with it when done!
                    AKA Paul from Washington State

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                    • #11
                      That is amazing. The time it takes to complete must be something special.
                      Denny
                      ArtCrafters in Dayton, TN

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