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    hi
    been looking around at scrollsaws, and i have come up against this one, any thoughts or ideas would help me.
    i noticed it takes pinned and straight blades, good range of speeds and looks quite sturdy, but, it may still be useless, anyone got one, or used one..
    steve
    http://www.cabincraft.co.uk

  • #2
    first of all...

    what kind of saw is it?

    Trout
    Hawk G-4 Jetcraft
    Fish are food, not friends!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Trout
      what kind of saw is it?

      Trout
      sorry, forgot to put the link on:
      http://www.axminster.co.uk/recno/3/p...saw-365272.htm
      http://www.cabincraft.co.uk

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      • #4
        Looks similar to my Craftsman. One thing you may not have noticed is that the tensioning adjustment is located at the rear of the saw. So, you have to keep reaching over the length of the saw everytime you need to thread the blade. Not a show stopper but something to consider. If you can find one in a local store, I would go see it before buying. You can't tell by the pic how difficult it is to lock the blade into the lower pivot.
        Mike

        Craftsman 16" VS, Puros Indios and Sam Adams!
        Scrollin' since Jun/2006

        My Gallery

        http://scrollcrafters.com (reciprocal links welcomed)

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        • #5
          Looks very similar to my Mastercraft and I really like it. I do like that release tension in the back but then that's what I got used to from the start.
          Dragon
          Owner of a nice 21" Excalibur
          Owner of a Dewalt 788
          PuffityDragon on AFSP

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          • #6
            Steve;
            When I opened your link and saw that saw I started wondering if Jet actually makes a scroll saw because up until now I had never heard of one. My first wood lathe was a Jet and they make a lot of very high quality tools. So I did a search of Jet's site and they don't show a scroll saw. Jet is a big manfacrurer/supplier of power tools in North America.
            So the one you are referring to leads me to believe that they have *borrowed* the Jet name and even painted it in the traditional Jet white coloring with red lettering.
            Does anyone know if there is really a Jet scroll saw made by or distributed by the USA/Canada company? Perhaps I missed it in my search.
            If not , I too wonder who is making that UK one ?
            Just curious.
            W.Y.

            http://www.picturetrail.com/willyswoodcrafting

            The task ahead of us is never as great as the power behind us

            Delta P-20 Scroll Saw, 14" x 43" Craftex Wood Lathe and Jet 10" Mini Lathe .

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            • #7
              It is remarkably compared to the Ryobi 16 inch vs saw, http://www.ryobitools.com/powertools/tool/sc164vs which was my first thought when I viewed it. Also it is even more similar to the shop fox brand scrollsaw but with a tiny bit of difference, mainly the speeds... http://www.grizzly.com/products/H5698 I am sure searching deeper will find a few more similar ones , like the Wilton 99166 saw. I am not sure who is the real maker of that saw, but it sure has plenty of twins, so if something did ever go wrong, it should be easy to find parts for. Dale
              Dale w/ yella saws

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              • #8
                It can be very frustrating buying a scroll saw if you have never used one before. Something like buying a musical instrument. you have to take the word of the salesman for it unless you have someone with experience shopping with you.
                You have done the right thing, coming to ask questios.

                The saw is an entry level saw manufactured under several names.
                Jet, Craftsman, Mastercraft, Ryobi and a few others.
                The UK site http://www.jettools.co.uk/benchtop.html offers a variety of bench tools I have not seen here in Canada.

                Like Mike said one thing to look at is how the blade fits in the lower chuck and how hard it is to tighten.

                Many saws made over the years were not designed by people who have to use them. I am sure we have all cursed one manufacturer or another.

                I am not sure on Dianes version, the Mastercraft, whether or not the blade clamps are tool less. The one I saw at my CTC needed an allan key.

                Before you buy the saw, make sure the salesman clamps a blade in it and even if you cant cut with the saw you should turn it on, set the tension and run it through the speed range. This will let you know how severe the vibration is.

                There are ways of reducing vibration, like bolting down the saw to a bench or a sandbox. Or even making an isolating table that will fit over the exsisting one.

                Most saws in this price range are built to a price. That being said some are very servicable. I still use a Delta 16: VS saw and cut out acceptable projects. I would buy myself a better saw if I were going into production but that has never been my intent.
                CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ
                "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net."
                Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

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                • #9
                  Mine looks the same except the knobs are yellow instead of red. Yes you need an allan key to tighen the blade in place both top and bottom.
                  Since I've never used another saw I have not seen a problem with this. Took me 6 months to get the courage to change from pinned blades to pinless because I was afraid that I would not tighten them enough.
                  Now that I'm used to it I would not go back. I like the feel of my saw.
                  Took a seminar on beginner scrollsaw when I first had it and there were two brands of saws in place. I remember that one (Delta) felt more like mine and the other that I tried (Dewalt) was completely different.
                  I find that mine is a very good saw for beginners. The price was right $80 CDN. If you don't like it then it's not a big loss.
                  Diane
                  Dragon
                  Owner of a nice 21" Excalibur
                  Owner of a Dewalt 788
                  PuffityDragon on AFSP

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                  • #10
                    thanks guys for the info, i will keep looking right up to the point of buying, i will however, keep asking for your expert opinions.
                    steveb
                    http://www.cabincraft.co.uk

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                    • #11
                      Please be wary of this machine, Steve. Although I've no personal experience of it, a while ago someone pointed out that it looked remarkably similar to a Rexon which might have been re-badged. Whilst there's nothing particularly wrong with Rexon's (except noise, vibration, and poor blade changing ), it might not necessarily represent best value for money.

                      Gill
                      There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is readily adopted.
                      (Schopenhauer, Die Kunst Recht zu Behalten)

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                      • #12
                        has someone got an opinion on this one i am following :
                        http://www.diytools.co.uk/Product.as.../72/1486!01373
                        thank you
                        Last edited by stevebuk; 12-25-2006, 06:11 PM.
                        http://www.cabincraft.co.uk

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                        • #13
                          That is basically the same saw under a different name.
                          you may want to look at this one http://www.diytools.co.uk/Product.aspx/!TB_DEL40540
                          I still use mine on a regular basis and I have been scrolling over 10 years.
                          Yes there are better saws out there but this is a good one in its price range
                          CAЯL HIRD-RUTTEЯ
                          "proud member of the best scroll sawing forum on the net."
                          Ryobi SC180VS scroll saw EX21

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                          • #14
                            hi carl
                            i was just looking at that site, and i quite fancy this:
                            http://www.diytools.co.uk/Product.as...72/1486!SM1302

                            is it any better or worse than your suggestion.
                            thank you
                            http://www.cabincraft.co.uk

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                            • #15
                              Dragon,
                              Out of curosity, do you use a regular "L"-shaped allen wrench or a "T"-handle wrench...

                              If you use the "L"-shaped ones, I have a few ideas on how to turn one into a "T"-handle type, which, I think, would be a lot easier to use..

                              Sorry, haven't had time to get to down to the shop for a couple days, and the DIYer in me is going stir crazy!!!

                              Bob
                              www.GrobetUSA.com

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