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    Ok.. I'm not onr for clamps so I'm looking for a strong enough glue to hold together knick knacks like the top part to a base, a paper towel holder, or a knick knack shelf. I need the glue to b tacky enough right away that it will hold a piece of wood in place in a minute or less. I tired alenes tacky fast dry and it held the piece in place at a 90 degree angle after 10 seconds of pressure. In two hrs I tried to pull it apart using some pressure. I couldn't. My hubby pulled it apart but he really had to try to break it. Will this glue be alright for use in the things I mentioned above? What others glues would you recommend?

    The other question is : Is there a glue that I can use for a plaque hanger{metal or brass} besides epoxy?

  • #2
    Hi Karen you could use hot melt glue. I use it when the weather is too cold for wood glue to go off.

    Whats wrong with clamps or weighting down the pieces?
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    • #3
      I use Aleene's Tacky glue quite often for applications exactly like you described. It works very well. For anything that requires structural strength (such as furniture), I generaly will use a slower setting, yellow wood glue, but the Aleene's works great for craft projects that aren't under any real stress. They actually make different varieties with slightly different characteristics. If you have Michaels Craft store handy, take a look at their selection.

      You may also be interested in using CA glue (think super glue). I often use a gel CA glue in situations where I need a quick, strong hold but there is very little surface area to apply the glue. There are types of CA glue that are made specifically for woodworking applications and they come in a variety of consistencies and bonding times.

      Oh and there are alternatives to clamps. Rubber bands and/or masking tape work well in situations where clamps are too awkward or apply too much pressure.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mayo Farmer View Post
        Hi Karen you could use hot melt glue. I use it when the weather is too cold for wood glue to go off.

        Whats wrong with clamps or weighting down the pieces?
        I see nothing wrong with weighing stuff down. My objection to clamps is just my preference. I don't like fiddling with clamps. I'm sure I would have trouble getting them to do what I want plus there's the cost factor. I'm also impatient and I dont want to sit there and fool with them. I just want to glue it and be done with it<grin>

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bill Wilson View Post
          I use Aleene's Tacky glue quite often for applications exactly like you described. It works very well. For anything that requires structural strength (such as furniture), I generaly will use a slower setting, yellow wood glue, but the Aleene's works great for craft projects that aren't under any real stress. They actually make different varieties with slightly different characteristics. If you have Michaels Craft store handy, take a look at their selection.

          You may also be interested in using CA glue (think super glue). I often use a gel CA glue in situations where I need a quick, strong hold but there is very little surface area to apply the glue. There are types of CA glue that are made specifically for woodworking applications and they come in a variety of consistencies and bonding times.

          Oh and there are alternatives to clamps. Rubber bands and/or masking tape work well in situations where clamps are too awkward or apply too much pressure.
          Hi Bill, Well thats good news about alenes. I bought a sample pack to try them. Will the ca glue attach the plaque hangers to wood? Maybe I'll go checking. I was hoping someone had used something and knew it would work on metal to wood. That way I wouldnt have to guess or wonder if it will really work. Lately I've been having trouble buying items that say the will or wont do this or that and I get it and it doesn't work out. Then I get stuck with return shipping on an item that cost almost as much as the shipping because it's heavy. Geeesh!

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          • #6
            Generally speaking, my preference is to use mechanical fasteners to attach hangers to the back of items, if at all possible. I just bought some tiny #2 brass screws to attach saw tooth hangers on the backs of a couple plaques I just finished, because the brads that came with the hangers were too long and I really didn't want to glue them.

            I have used 2 part epoxy once or twice to attach hangers, but never tried CA glue. Technically, regular old CA (super glue) is supposed to bond metal to wood, so in theory it should work. I've just never had all that much confidence in it when it comes to holding under stress.
            Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter. Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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            • #7
              I have been using this for wood Titebond Molding and Trim Glue - Rockler Woodworking Tools

              I also use a lot of CA glue medium to thick with an accelerator.
              But I am with Bill when it comes to hangers I want screws.
              Rolf
              RBI G4 26 Hawk, EX 16 with Pegas clamps, Nova 1624 DVR XP
              Philosophy "I don't know that I can't, therefore I can"
              Proud Member of the Long Island Woodworkers Club
              And the Long Island Scrollsaw Association

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              • #8
                Rolf has the right idea. I use titebod mold and trim glue all the time ,after a couple of min,. it will hold the wood in place.and cleans up easy.

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                • #9
                  For hangers I've used a glue called "Liquid Fusion" I got it at Michaels I think. It may actually be by the same people that make Aileen's (which I use quite often as well). Aileen's is the only glue I've found that is easy to use, and will hold a fretwork piece to a backer that has been spray-painted.

                  Steve

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                  • #10
                    A pretty fast setting glue is regular Elmer's white glue. It dries clear and holds well. I also use a lot of rubber bands as clamps when making my small cedar boxes with miter joints on the corners and white glue. Only time I use other wood glue is when the piece may be exposed to weather. I used Titebond III for that. I epoxy metal to wood or plastic joints.
                    Hegner Polymax- 3,Hegner Multimax-3,
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                    • #11
                      Hey, lot of good tips here & Jim, I can even agree with your epoxy glue applications. I tried different kinds of glue on a plastic picture frame, but, no cigar. I tried using the lattice trim for a pic frame & it was very difficult to get anything to work. Will have to use epoxy & don't know if that will be enough, because I don't have anything else to hold the miters together. Thinking about brass corner pieces, but, how do I fasten them to the plastic. I think it was a bad idea, using plastic. Thanks for all the glue tips.
                      PERK

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                      • #12
                        When I worked in a hobby shop 10 years ago they had some special glue for certain types of plastic. You might ask there.
                        Hegner Polymax- 3,Hegner Multimax-3,
                        "No PHD, just a DD 214"

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                        • #13
                          It really depends on the plastic. Some have to be welded.
                          Here is a link for acrylics


                          You could also try PVC cement
                          Rolf
                          RBI G4 26 Hawk, EX 16 with Pegas clamps, Nova 1624 DVR XP
                          Philosophy "I don't know that I can't, therefore I can"
                          Proud Member of the Long Island Woodworkers Club
                          And the Long Island Scrollsaw Association

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