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[SSG Johnson]

Can someone explain the different types of scoll work and the benifits or downfalls of each and which would be the best to start with. IE. intersia. fret work, I dont know where to start. What would be the best to start with.

[Old Mooner]

Don't mean to put off the question of differences between types of scrolling, but it might help you if you would go to the "Scroller Galleries" section listed on the left side of the page under Scrolling Community. When you get to that page, scroll down and you will see the categories about which you are asking. Take a look at the work shown under the categories ("Fretwork" for example) and see if that helps before you begin to get all the different answers from group members. By the way, welcome to the group. I think you will enjoy it.
Moon

[SSG Johnson]

Thanks for the Reply I will do that. Now I cant go anouther day without knowing what your sign on name is all about.....LOL

[GrayBeard Phil]

SSG:

This is just IMHO:

With most hobby woodworkers (speaking of USA / Canada for the most part,) you spend your money on jigs and fixtures. Since most hobbyists don't have many years to serve as apprentices, they buy accessories (jigs and fixtures) to replace the skills (like handmade dovetails) they don't have time to learn.

With scroll sawing, there are no jigs nor fixtures. We freehand the wood past the blade. Period. Scroll saw skills are not hard lessons to learn, and it don't take a long time either. It is just eye-hand co-ordination, grow at your own pace.

In short, practice, and then practice some more. But with your 'handle' SSG Johnson, should I say dill, drill, and then drill some more.

Since you have a learning curve to get up and over, don't expect your fist few attempts to be all that great. The object is to have fun with the hobby, not become an artisan by Easter. Artisan skills will come, but later.

Go to a library and seek out scroll saw books. Many books have learner's projects in the form of children's puzzles, simple animal shapes, and other skill building projects. Fretwork, and portrait work will still be there when you really know you have the basic skills learned, and you need a new challenge to grow your skills.

Keep positive, enjoy the hobby, don't get discouraged. If things get out of whack, step back analyze what is happening, seek out causes, ask a question if you need, decide on a corrective action plan, then execute your plan. Review the outcome of your plan, if needed make adjustments to your plan and re-engage with your plan.

( I trust the above is familiar, or at lest words to that effect.)

Phil

[GrayBeard Phil]

Opps:

I forgot a part of the drill, I just cannot remember back to my days in uniform

STOP
Step BACK and analyze
Formulate a CLEAR and unambiguous statement on what is happening
seek out and IDENTIFY possible causes
find source to answer QUESTIONS
Make a corrective action PLAN
EXECUTE Plan
REVIEW plan results
MODIFY plan and re-engage

Darn it, I just cannot remember how all those phrases went together. The Key words I am sure went like Stop, Back, Clear, Identify, Source, Questions, Plan, Execute, Review, and Modify.

Too many beers.

Phil

[lucky788scroller]

to learn about the names,there is a off topic section in here and the names have been recently discussed. You will be amazed,old mooner really isnt quite what your mind is telling you it is!

[Sawdust King]

What Type?

From someone who probably doesn't have much more experience than you here is what I'd suggest. Well Verdana and Tahoma are good font types for the web but for scrolling, I'd suggest Puzzles.

Why? They are simple. Intarsia is detailed pieces that are cut separately and as a beginner your line following might not be that precise which can lead to gaps between pieces. Fretwork has tons of opening some of them quite detailed. Again your line following might not be stellar so some of your product might snap off and get lost. Basic cutouts are simple. If you fall off the line not all is lost. There are many simple puzzles out there and the satisfaction of completing a simple four piece puzzle of a Scottish Terrier (my first) was satisfying beyond belief (Hey, I actually made this thing). The lines for the puzzle itself can be deviated from and corrected with a higher tolerance than say fretwork. Also, puzzles can be done quickly (unless you grabbed 3/4" red oak) in poplar or pine. Being a bit critical of myself I tried a name inlay and was disappointed. I have since learned to let go of that, and find that the puzzles help keep me motivated and allow me to practice my line following and still have a product that is acceptable.

As I digress, my recent kick has been using a symetrical curve for all the puzzle pieces thus allowing them to connect to any other piece, this also serves to increase the complexity of the puzzle just a bit.

[ozarkhillbilly]

Welcome aboard!!

Ol mooner gave you some good advice, as will others, bottom line follow what interest you and jump in, and the rest will follow.

Check your PM

ozarkhillbilly
Bill

[SSG Johnson]

Thanks for your replys I finally got some pine turned the saw on and broke three blades......LOL Oh well I did learn a few things on my own one being slow down and the other being when I think im going slow enough I need to go slower.....LOL.

[Gill]

Hmmm.... I'm just thinking about all those jigs I'm not supposed to have. Somehow, I've managed to produce quite a few, from angled tables for drill presses (okay, they're not scrollsawing jigs, but they're useful if you're going to do relief work) to hold-downs for router tables (great for rounding segmented work) and false tables for the actual scroll saw itself. Then there's the little gizmo's that are hard to describe but are very darned useful!

Somehow, I just seem to accumulate jigs no matter what form of woodwork I'm doing

Gill

[minowevie]

hahahaha ssg Johnson. you have advice from the best here now. I can see your a hunter. lots of patiance. youll do this art well. so where did you get that buck?. this is so fun. and the most chalanging. you can cut out that deer with no probleam. you can even give him more horns than he had to begen with lol. just kidding , but rely it is fun . just hang around and youll see.I love to hunt too. but you just have to do something in the off season. right. Your new friend Evie