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  • #16
    Hi Mike - sorry I was late in picking up your question

    Give me a few days and I'll knock up an add on to this tutorial - if I can remember how to use Inkscape - LOL!

    The technique is actually simple when you know how - like most things!

    If you go to my first couple of tutorials where I talked about combining shapes and the one where I traced a penguin these show you how to manipulate shapes by 'tweaking' their nodes and pulling their curves in different directions and then cutting one shape with another - grasp these techniques and you are almost there.

    I'd tackle the problem this way:

    To form an interlocking puzzle first squash a couple of text letters closer together so they practically meet. Then convert the letters into editable shapes and distort them a little, and fine tune the curves where they meet each other, then add nodes to one of the letter shapes curve and distort these to pull out and form a ' male' interlock shape from the curve. Next clone the letter shape with the interlock and use the clone to cut out the 'female' interlock shape from the adjacent letter shape. Piece of cake - LOL!

    Have I lost you? - probably!

    Best wait for the tutorial and I'll make it really simple for you to understand
    Jim in Mexico

    Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
    - Albert Einstein

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    • #17
      Where are the first tutitorials, I searched on SSW and could not find any thing else about Inkscape by jim_mex? Are they by someone else?
      Bob making sawdust in SW Louisiana
      with a EX-21

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      • #18
        Thank buddy I appreciate the effort. it was really simple before I just sent dale or Jim an e-mail and they personalized em for myself and several other folks. Now unfortunately Dale has been stricken with a devastating disease and Jim--- well he retired and sold all his patterns to FC. They don't have the ability yet to personalize em for us.

        The tutorials are stickies in the tutorial section...
        "Still Montana Mike"

        "Don't worry about old age--it doesn't last that long."
        Mike's Wood-n-Things LLC

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        • #19
          I still can't find the first 4 tutorials on using Inkscape. Sure wish I could as I would love to learn to use it so I could make my own patterns. Any help finding them would be appreciated.
          Bob making sawdust in SW Louisiana
          with a EX-21

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          • #20
            tvman...look at the top of this page in the stickies section...

            Scroll Saw Design Tutorials - Scroll Saw Woodworking & Crafts Message Board
            "Still Montana Mike"

            "Don't worry about old age--it doesn't last that long."
            Mike's Wood-n-Things LLC

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            • #21
              Thanks woodnthings, don't think I would have ever found that without some help.
              Bob making sawdust in SW Louisiana
              with a EX-21

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              • #22
                I'm interested in what you come up with here, Jim. Drawing decent looking locks drives me nuts - much easier to just freehand cut 'em! When I have to draw them in I do it by pen (digital or otherwise) and then I can push the nodes around in Xar^H^H^HInkscape to fit.
                --Rob

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                • #23
                  Drawing decent looking locks drives me nuts
                  Tell me about it Rob! I'm having the same problem. Drawing them is easy, getting them to look right in a woodimal is a different issue!

                  One trick I tried last night which seemed to work was to draw a standard looking lock and make several copies of it. Then I take a copy and 'combine or add' it to a part I want to create the lock on.

                  If you use this technique for all of your locks it makes life a lot simpler, plus you can tweak a little the copies to increase, decrease or stretch them a little to give some variation. It seems to me that this is also a much faster way of drawing the locks than manipulating nodes on paths of the shapes you want to create locks on.

                  I guess you also know that it's a lot easier to do this in Xara rather than Inkscape!

                  I'll get that tutorial posted later today once I can remember how to use Inkscape again - LOL!
                  Jim in Mexico

                  Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
                  - Albert Einstein

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                  • #24
                    Here's my shot at manipulating the nodes: I don't like the copy, paste, combine method so well since it seems to be more work once you've tweaked them to be different yet still flow. It may not be so bad if you don't fuss over them as much as I end up doing

                    Step 1: add two anchor points where you want to grow the lock.

                    Step 2: pull out a nub between those points to work with

                    Step 3: add two more anchors to separate the neck from the head of the lock

                    Step 4: twist the control rods to form the head into the lock
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                    • #25
                      The same idea can make less traditional locks. If it weren't so late I'd probably give them a bit more of a back angle on the neck.
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                      • #26
                        Hey Rob - just read your pm. Thanks pal!

                        They say that "great minds think alike".... could be dangerous though - LOL!

                        Great explanation with your drawings!

                        Just for added info - When responding to Mick's cry for help I used exactly the technique you describe to produce my locks. Then, after getting into some problems of not being able to visualize exactly where on a woodimal type pattern to place the locks, I used the copy a lock, place it in place , tweak the lock and then combine technique to speed up the process

                        I suppose that if I had have had a printer at home and had been able to pencil in locks positions on a printed pattern then I would have used a drawing as a guide to draw locks on the PC using node manipulation. Since I don't have a printer I came up with this workaround.

                        This method does have another advantage. You could create an Inkscape file with a 'library' layer containing all sorts of pre-drawn lock shapes such as the ones you show, along with any figurals etc and then use this file as a template to start off any new pattern which would be drawn on a different layer. Your pre-drawn locks would then always be instantly accessible to you without getting in the way of your pattern. Once a pattern is finished the library layer could be deleted out of the way before saving your file.

                        Thanks for diving into the thread and helping out
                        Jim in Mexico

                        Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
                        - Albert Einstein

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