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    This may be a bit lengthy, so get comfy. These are my opinions and views about our current reno project and why I will never ever do another reno project again!!

    Never ever leave hubby, son & BIL (who is a licensed home improvement contractor, so we aren’t without experience) alone on the beginning of a reno. No matter what anyone says. What could go wrong? Let’s see: Hubby gets carried away with sawsall and “nicks” electrical line. Goes even crazier ripping up back of bathroom floor addition and, yes, this time cuts the support beam - in 2 places!!! Took one whole day to jack up house and apply new support beams. Son in basement redoing plumbing and sewer line - does great job - this time.
    BIL decides we don’t need the heat/ac vent in back of bathroom and relocates to front of bathroom. Put down new sub flooring leaving out vent in back. First, and I mean the first thing I notice on my return home is the vent missing. Why is it up front and not in the back? Answer: We thought it would be better up front. WRONG. Did you forget the heat/ac for our bedroom comes from this vent and needs to be in the back? Duh, yes. Hubby has to crawl under crawl space, cut out floor and put vent back. Had it been left in the front, we would have had the warmest/coolest hallway in the state!! This took another 3 hours to do.
    Take off sheet rock and discover it was glued on, by none other than Hubby, last time we redid the bathroom 12 years ago. Glue had to be scrapped off. BIL comes over to check work a few days later. “Tell Bruce the screws in the sheet rock go 2 every 2 feet on the stud. Not every 8 inches (hubby gets carried away with screws & glue) unless he wants to mud the wall. By the way, he needs nail plates, (yes I knew what they were!!). See where he screwed into the wall in front of wiring? Put in front of wiring and plumbing.
    We needed a plumber to replace our mainshut off valve as it totally disintegrated when they tried to turn it off. Of course, not covered under coverage I have for sewer & water as they threw away the old valve!! Cost: $200. Oh by the way, your plumbing is very old so don’t be surprised WHEN, not if, it developes a leak or break. That we can fix under your policy for up to $5000. Turn off main valve in sidewalk every day and check water meter. If turning, call water company and us so we can fix. Water company on speed dial.
    Now we get to the good parts: Hubby cut and hung more sheet rock. BIL comes over and guess what, he hung it wrong!! Has to be taken down. Starts to give hubby hard time, and hubby tells BIL to go turn a pen. He says I don’t know how to do that. Hubby says, exactly, I ain’t no carpenter either! Some info would have been helpful. So far hubby has hung and rehung the bathroom 2 times.
    Now the plumbing in the bathroom. Son decides we need to switch to the cpvc for water lines as old copper lines were thinning. At 2:00 this morning I heard a “waterfall” and yelled for hubby to get up and ran down stairs. One inch of water on the entire basement floor. 2 hours later we just finished cleaning up. Gota love the caveman who invented the wheel. All tools are on wheels. Only casualty so far seems to be the brand new freezer. Covered under homeowners as well as food inside. Of course, we now have the cleanest workshop floor ever!!!
    After four hours today hubby replaces cpvc with copper pipe, takes shower and goes to work. Son comes home apologizes and I say forget it, could have happened to anyone. (But why us). Should I tell him about the 2nd drip I saw in the middle of the floor in the hot water pipe?
    On plan for tomorrow: Get 3 more pieces of sheetrock and finish hanging in bathroom. The wall, that is. Frame out new closet in back of bathroom. Sun & Mon are days off. Hubby has been working nonstop since 5/2 on this bathroom.
    Advice: Add 10% to your budget for take out food. Who wants to cook doing all this mess? When hubby gets carried away, hide drill and pretend you can’t find it. We have spent over $100 in screws for a 5x16 bathroom!!! Granted he had to screw down the sub floor as well as the cement board, but only so far has hung no more than 4 pieces total of sheetrock!!! Of course, we bought 8 so far. Don’t buy paint until the very end incase you have to take back floor. Paint might not match new floor. Add 10% to your budget for screws. Add 20% for unexpected plumbing expenses.
    I’m still not sure if the light at the end of the tunnel is another freight train heading our way or not! Hopefully, next week this time this nightmare will be over!!!!!
    Betty

    "Congress needs to realize it is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Not of the people, by the people and for Congress." - Dr. Benjamin Carson, Pediatric Neurosurgeon, Johns Hopkins Hospital

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    Good Grief, Betty!!!!!! It's a shame you haven't filmed all of this. You could make a fortune by selling it to a movie company. It sounds like the 3 Stooges have been loose in that bathroom. I think it would be wise to add another 20% to the budget to cover your travel and hotel expenses until the job is done. Just don't allow them to decorate.

    Jan

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    • #3
      LOL Betty! - I know I shouldn't really be doing this but I'm doubled with laughter at your tale of woe.

      First of all let me congratulate you on putting together this tale. I've been told that I can spin a story but this one outmatches any of my attempts!

      On the positive side it does appear, when reading between the lines, that you are taking a philosophical outlook to what to many would seem to have been a never ending nightmare. Had I have been in your husband's shoes I think not only would my patience have run out but my wife would have sent me packing - well she does that every so often anyway, put this time it would have been for good!

      I agree with Jan, this would have made a great slapstick movie. Hey, I don't want to sound as if I'm picking on your hubby but cutting through those support beams, twice, has got to be a winner!

      What to say? Well only my best wishes that that imagined freight train really is an illusion and there is a light at the end of your tunnel.

      When all this is past and sorted I'm sure you'll be able to look back and smile, meanwhile, whatever you do, don't decide to remodel the kitchen!

      Hang in their luv and a big thanks for penning the story!
      Last edited by jim_mex; 05-25-2012, 06:50 PM.
      Jim in Mexico

      Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
      - Albert Einstein

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      • #4
        You're making it up, right?
        Carole

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        • #5
          No, Carole, I couldn't make this up!! You don't know my husband and his brothers when they get together to do something. And they all are over 6'4" tall so when they hang anything on the wall, it's at ceiling height!!! I will make sure that I'm here when they put the mirror on the wall over the sink otherwise I'll need a stepladder to see into it!!! Gota have a sense of humor through all of this!!
          Betty

          "Congress needs to realize it is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Not of the people, by the people and for Congress." - Dr. Benjamin Carson, Pediatric Neurosurgeon, Johns Hopkins Hospital

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          • #6
            Since I posted this I had some really bad news about my brother-in-law. Not the one helping us but the other one. He has been diagnosed with bladder cancer. It has been caught in the very early stages and cure rate is 85-100% for him. My husband and his other brother have taken the news very well but it is still a shock to all of us but we knew something was wrong by the symptons he has been having for the last 6 weeks. Early detection & diagnosis is the key. I guess this reno is a walk in the park for what's in store for my BIL. So remember, take things with a smile and sense of humor. Don't fret the small things (water pipes flowing like a river in your basement at 2 in the morning) and fight with everything you can for the stuff that counts.
            Betty

            "Congress needs to realize it is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Not of the people, by the people and for Congress." - Dr. Benjamin Carson, Pediatric Neurosurgeon, Johns Hopkins Hospital

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            • #7
              Betty I am really sorry to here about your BIL...sure hope that turns out fine...sounds like you need some good news soon.
              Hawaiilad
              Larry

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              • #8
                Thanks for the humor! Thank goodnes for early detection. We will say a prayer for your Brother in law
                Rolf
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                • #9
                  Hi again Betty - so sorry to hear of your brother-in-law's diagnostic. Here's hoping that everything turns out fine for him and the family.

                  Just to add that I echo your sentiments. Materialistic issues can be frustrating but good health and taking care and giving support to those around you is what really counts. I'm looking forward to you posting positive news when you have it.
                  Last edited by jim_mex; 05-26-2012, 07:12 PM.
                  Jim in Mexico

                  Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
                  - Albert Einstein

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                  • #10
                    Sorry to hear of all your troubles, Betty. Really tough news about your BIL. Hope he gets well soon. Kinda puts all the other stuff into perspective, doesn't it.
                    Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter. Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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                    • #11
                      Reno update - ALL sheetrock DONE!!! Finally!! All electrical work - DONE, although Hubby almost cut another wire. Don't ask, he said Uh Oh and I walked out of the room. No flames or smoke, so I guess everything is ok. Going to Lowes to get paint and supplies today. 10% discount for all vets today. BIL mudding walls next week-end, then I can prime and paint walls. Then floor, which will be the last thing to be done the way this is going, hook up sink, and DONE DONE DONE. Son finished plumbing in bathroom and no more floods. I must say, I still have the cleanest workshop floors of all of us. I think I forgot to mention in the midst of all this, I got a recall for my brand new van. Took to shop for inspection, service rep comes out and tells me parts being ordered VOR. What's VOR? Vehicl off road. Yep, pulled my van off the road. Seems the right rear wheel could fall off while driving. Now driving a durango, which I do not like at all for the next 3 weeks.. Oh well, at least the wheels won't fall off. I hope.

                      Keep smiling!!! And how is your latest reno project going?
                      Betty

                      "Congress needs to realize it is a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Not of the people, by the people and for Congress." - Dr. Benjamin Carson, Pediatric Neurosurgeon, Johns Hopkins Hospital

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                      • #12
                        Glad there's a light at the end of the tunnel, Betty. All of this will make your gorgeous new bathroom even sweeter.

                        And my latest "reno" is a total change in living quarters. We sold our condo (long story, don't ask), are set to close mid August, and still have to find a house. So far close, but no cigar, but we're hopeful we won't end up in a large cardboard box.

                        So actually knowing where you're going to live, even with reno aggravations, sounds very good to me about now!

                        That's probably why I've been baking up a storm. Preserves sanity!
                        Carole

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                        • #13
                          That's great that you sold your Condo Carole. In this market it takes forever to find a buyer. But now you are a buyer, so you should find a really good deal on a house.

                          Betty, you will look back on this redo and will be glad you did it and glad it over...all at the same time!!
                          Hawaiilad
                          Larry

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                          • #14
                            Betty - Good luck on finishing your bathroom. I'm glad that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't the freight train
                            Also good luck to your brother-in-law. My hubby had bladder cancer a couple of years ago. Yes it was caught real early. The surgery only took a couple of hours & within four hours, I was driving him home. Everything was done with a scope. Hopefully your brother-in-laws surgery goes smoothly.
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                            • #15
                              Betty

                              See there is light at the end of the tunnel its just that some tunnels are longer than others and it sounds like you got a long one.

                              Thoughts and prayers your BIL makes a speedy recovery.
                              Tim

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